The Gradient Ascent Episode 2, Part 1 – The Future of Canadian Startups: AI, Capital, and Brain Drain
Aug 12, 20261 minute
The Gradient Ascent Episode 2, Part 1 – The Future of Canadian Startups: AI, Capital, and Brain Drain
In this episode of The Gradient Ascent Podcast, CIBC’s Paul McKinlay and Daniel Lee sit down with George Babu and Gideon Hayden to explore what it takes to build enduring AI companies today — from cheaper experimentation and distributed teams to smarter go-to-market strategies. They also dig into a bigger question for Canada’s tech ecosystem: how do we keep top founders building at home when talent, capital and ambition move globally? Part 2: Why Enterprise AI Adoption is Still so Hard is out now.
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Paul McKinlay
Executive Managing Director, Head of Innovation Banking
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In Part 2 of our latest Gradient Ascent Podcast conversation on building enduring AI companies, guests George Babu and Gideon Hayden dive into why enterprise AI adoption remains challenging. From operationalizing AI at scale to how agents are reshaping software and spend, they also explore why emerging areas like physical AI and agent security may define the next wave of innovation. - Market perspectives
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